Outsourcing: The Crash & Burn Story
What’s up, folks! So this post is dedicated to my good buddy John Stevens, who gave some very solid advice about outsourcing, and hiring Virtual Assistants. You should check him ...
What’s up, folks!
So this post is dedicated to my good buddy John Stevens, who gave some very solid advice about outsourcing, and hiring Virtual Assistants.
You should check him out.
It got me to thinking of my own recent experiences with Virtual Assistants.
FAST TIMES AT ODESK!
Disclaimer: I haven’t actually SEEN this movie from 1982. But the movie title came to mind when I started writing this post. I do not advocate the actual “Fast Times” depicted in the movie! LOL! So send complaint letters to Sean Penn (the guy in the picture.)
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It was the Fall 0f 2010.
I learned from one of my good webpreneur buddies, John Easton (Video That Wins Customers) that oDesk was a great place to find Virtual Assistants.
He was using a couple, with great success, in his business.
Now John Easton is “the brain outside my head”. He’s got a phenomenal business mind, and I consult with him often.
Anyway, I had done one-off outsourcing for graphics on Guru.com.
But I’d never incorporated a Virtual Assistant into my ongoing daily operations.
John made a compelling case for it – so off to oDesk I went.
The benefits that I see with oDesk are:
- They have a worldwide marketplace.
My first 12 V.A.s were from Canada, Pakistan, Kenya, Philippines, and Egypt.
. - The hourly rates vary widely.
I consistently found hourly rates of $1/hour and $2/hour.
There were lots of people charging much higher rates, but I gathered that these were people with very specialized and expert skills, and/or people living in countries like the United States, Canada, and England (with more expensive currencies).
. - The skillsets vary widely.
This was definitely a good thing. You don’t always need an expert (read: expensive). More often than not, you need someone competent and reliable, to do tasks that, while they’re not complex, they’re time consuming. Or tasks that you would otherwise procrastinate because you don’t like doing them. LOL!
. - The risk of being cheated is removed, for both you and the V.A.:
oDesk verifies your credit card before you can even list a job, or make a job offer. They let you know what you’re going to be charged each week, and they do charge on a weekly basis. The same day, every week. You have a few days to contest any charges made to your card… so you’re protected too. (Unless you aren’t paying attention to the charges… which happened to me. FAST TIMES.)
Back to the story.
I went to oDesk, took a few minutes to understand how to use the site, and then started browsing.
Soon after, I posted my first job. I was almost shaking at the possibilities!
“You mean – all that manual work that I HATE doing, and often PROCRASTINATE, can now become someone else’s problem?
For $2 or $3/hour?”
(birds start singing… the sun shines… harps play…)
I already had a laundry list of what I wanted these V.A.s to do.
I posted my first job, and within minutes, applications started coming in.
Within a few hours I had dozens of people, eagerly asking to do my work!
WAS I ON CANDID CAMERA???
It was so easy to get a Virtual Assistant for the first job, that I posted a second.
And a third.
And a fourth.
And a fifth.
Each time, applicants would come pouring in. Asking for the privilege of doing my work for me.
I was ready to retire to a beach house at this point. I HAD MADE IT!
Okay. So here’s what I had the Virtual Assistants doing for me.
- Podcast transcribing:
I interviewed a few entrepreneurs for my niche site on Nigerian entrepreneurs and wanted text versions of the interviews.
But transcribing takes a really long time. So I was glad to outsource that!The per-minute transcription prices on oDesk were a lot lower than the ones I had found in previous months, from U.S.-based transcribers.
Note that transcription is a tricky thing. You need someone who speaks English as well as a native English speaker (not a requirement for many other outsourced tasks). I got one transcript of poor quality, but the rest were satisfactory.
I soon settled on one of the four transcribers I had used as my main guy, and sent him more business.
. - Video Submission to Traffic Geyser (Video Syndication tool)
In 2010, I resolved to get a lot more into video. After 2 years of false-starts. Ha ha!
So I finally started recording some videos, and putting them on YouTube. But I was hardly getting any views or web site traffic!I signed up for Traffic Geyser, as a way to get my videos on dozens of video sites at once.
However, I found it tedious to go into the Traffic Geyser tool and do the submissions .
So I outsourced this, and it worked like a charm.(Note: For now, I have canceled Traffic Geyser. I’m streamlining my costs.)
- Discussion forum sign-ups:
I decided to take Alex Jeffreys’ advice and use niche Discussion Forums as a source of traffic. Becoming a vocal part of a niche discussion forum allows you to build relationships, and generate very targeted traffic. Maybe not a huge amount, but whatever traffic does come to your site will be very tuned in to the niche that you’re blogging about.I had a Virtual Assistant find me about 30 discussion forums related to Internet Marketing, and sign me up for them all.
He filled out my profile on each site, creating a backlink to my blog in the process.Now – the plan was (and still is) to post a question relating to some content I’ve already written, on each of the discussion forums, on a periodic basis.
My V.A. will post the questions, but responses will come to my email address. I’ll field the conversation from there.
I’ll be implementing this starting in January 2011. We’ll see how it goes – it’s an experiment.
. - New blog setup:
I wanted to create a new blog, separate from my main one.A lot of the Virtual Assistants I had interacted with on oDesk indicated experience with WordPress… so I had one of my VAs completely own the task of setting up this new blog. Templates… plug-ins… all that good stuff. I haven’t had to touch the web site at all!
While this is work I could do myself, I prefer to focus on higher-value tasks. And this one is going quite well.
(Note: Mainly because it’s being done by the V.A. I found to be the most reliable. She’s a dream to work with.)
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- Web research:
I had 3 or 4 Virtual Assistants do web research tasks for me.In one case, I was trying to figure out what topics to focus on for my next eBook. I had read somewhere that the best place to find out what questions your audience is asking is in niche discussion forums. So I had a Virtual Assistant get me the most commented on topics from about 5 different Internet Marketing forums… and put them in an Excel spreadsheet.
Interestingly, this did not go so well. I was working with several Virtual Assistants simultaneously at this point… and still learning the system.
So I allowed this one VA to have 4 hours a week, and didn’t check on her for a few weeks.By the time I got the work back, the quantity of work she completed in 8 hours was disappointing.
I could have done that same work in 30 minutes or less.This happens sometimes.
So it’s helpful to start the Virtual Assistant off with only 1 or 2 hours, check on them, gain confidence in their work, and THEN increase their hours.
. - Building backlinks from Squidoo:
I read about the importance of building backlinks to your site, from high authority web sites.
Web 2.0 sites like Squidoo, HubPages, as well as article directories like eZineArticles.com, are all highly reputed.
So what I resolved to do was to have some of my existing content repurposed and placed onto Squidoo.I had a Virtual Assistant manage this for me. To be honest, I wasn’t thrilled with the results.
The idea was (is) a good one. But the implementation left a lot to be desired.
- Sending out cards:
My wife and I are independent reps for a company that helps people send out physical greeting cards through the mail. All done from a web browser.
It’s a fun and handy service – no more going to the greeting card store, then going to the post office, buying stamps, etc. And it saves your contact list (including birthdays), so that you can easily send a card out whenever the thought crosses your mind.Anyway, I found that being a bit of a creative person, I was spending WAAAAY too much time designing each card! I was getting all fancy – designing completely custom cards… with the recipients’ photos included and everything. Ha ha! So rather than sending cards frequently, I was doing these really elaborate cards, but only once in a blue moon.
On the prompting (okay, kick in the pants) from a friend, I decided to outsource this task to a Virtual Assistant.
Since my list of contacts was already in the system, I could simply tell the Virtual Assistant to whom I wanted to send the card, and what the personal message should be. The V.A. could then pick a nice “thank you card” template, enter my message, and send to my recipient.Boom. All done.
This one is in progress – and will be a big focus for me in 2011. I plan to send one card a day with this system.
There are always people to thank, birthdays to acknowledge, congratulations to extend.
There is NO WAY I could think of doing a card a day, without a V.A.
The V.A. I’m using has worked with me on other tasks above, to great success… so I know I can trust her with this.
(I have her doing, I think, 10 hours/week for me at this point. And I’ve stopped working with most of the other V.A.s I had hired.)
Just to give you a picture of how much more EFFICIENT oDesk made me in the past 3 months, here are some stats:
My monthly summary on oDesk:
- Oct 2010: 61:20 hours, $133.98 (average of $2.18/hour)
- Nov 2010: 20:00 hours, $ 54.76 (average of $2.74/hour)
- Dec 2010: 14:00 hours, $ 42.00 (average of $3.00/hour)
- Total: 95:20 hours, $230.74 (average of $2.42/hour)
You can see how I started off in the fast lane, but eventually settled into a groove. Ha!
Anyway, my outsourcing adventures continue.
It’s really easy to get started, so I recommend you make a quick list of stuff you SHOULD be doing in your business, but aren’t. And then look to outsource them.
One other note: Outsourcing increases your efficiency – it lets you do more in less time.
But it doesn’t necessarily increase your effectiveness – getting the right things done.
You have to come up with a game plan that gets you from here to where you want to be.
Only then, can outsourcing move you in the right direction.
I’d love to hear of your stories, or fears, about outsourcing!
You can leave a response, or trackback from your own site.




Bolaji O, known as "The Nocrastinator", is an expert in goal getting for digital entrepreneurs.


31 Responses to this article
Hey Bolaji,
Well God loves a trier and I think you have proved that you TRY!
I honestly can’t say I have tasks to outsource just yet, but you can believe when I do… I will be hopping all over the outsource band wagon trust me.
Thanks for sharing your experiences so far and being so in-depth and honest about them, I know for a fact the day will come when I need to outsource, so your information is invaluable to me,
Speak soon, Sally
Sally Neill´s last [type] ..Go Ahead… Make Me Hop Onto Your Blog!
It’s Sally from the Valley!
(I don’t know if you actually live in a valley or not. But it does rhyme. That always counts for something.)
Thanks for commenting, Sally! And just-in-time… Cheekeong and Yoichi are trying to knock you down from your status of being my 2nd most frequent commenter. (CHALLENGE! LOL!)
I’m glad you found the post useful. I’m glad to provide comic relief, and occasionally, something mildly educational, with my stumbling around the “Interwebs”. LOL!
See you on the flip side, Sally!
Looking forward to your next blog post!
Bolaji O´s last [type] ..The Death of The Good Idea – Action is the Killer App
I loved this post, Bolaji! I’ve had plenty of success and plenty of failures in the VA department. I did have a variety of articles written successfully by VAs for article marketing….I always had to do some work on the articles to “clean them up” and add a little to them, but it took much less time than if I started them from scratch.
I’ve also outsourced a LOT of backlinking which is just about the most boring and tedious thing that anyone could ever do themselves. LOL!
I will admit that I have been gun shy about some of the web stuff because I didn’t want to give out my log-in info for the server, etc. That requires a bit of trust, don’t you think? Maybe I’m paranoid. LOL!
Thanks again for sharing your experiences. This was great.
Shae Bynes´s last [type] ..The REI Masterclass- Top Strategies To Find Cash Buyers
What’s up, Shae Bynes!
I’m loving the brand-new Real Estate Investors Masterclass that you just launched. Congratulations on getting that off the ground!
You’re one of the people that inspired me to do more with virtual assistants. I had a good long laugh at your description of backlinking (which I can’t argue with at all! LOL!)
And yes, regarding giving your V.A. access to your server… YOU ARE PARANOID! LOL!
You could always create another user for logging into your server, and give that info to your V.A. That user could have less than full admin access.
I’d say “there’s more than one way to skin a cat”… but I know how fond of that statement you are.
Thanks for commenting!
Bolaji O´s last [type] ..Do You Love What You Know Challenge 3- Personal Brand Formula
LOL! I know I can do that with WP but didn’t think I could with HostGator/cpanel.
Basically a couple friends of a friend had experiences where the VA basically held the files hostage or deleted files etc when there was a disagreement. But I realized that most VAs wouldn’t do this…it’s just that I’d want to have someone recommended to me so I could trust the integrity of the person.
Thanks for the nice words on The REI Masterclass.
Shae Bynes´s last [type] ..The REI Masterclass- Top Strategies To Find Cash Buyers
Hey Bolaji,
Great post. I am yet to take the plunge into getting a VA but am outsourcing on a task by task basis at the moment. I am aiming to get my first VA in February of this year so fingers crossed I find a good one!
Thanks again for a great post and well done on finding a good VA!
Simon
It’s Sir Simon the Great!
How it going, sir? Good for you on getting the Outsourcing process started. That’s great progress! Have you worked with a single one, or multiple? Don’t get 12 V.A.’s at once… a little bird told me that’s not a great idea. LOL!
Good luck with your virtual assistant selection, too!
Hey, look at it this way:
– If you get a really good virtual assistant the first time around, you and your business will be happy.
– But if you get a not-so-good virtual assistant, you’ll at least have a really interesting blog post to write! LOL!
Cheers, mate!
Bolaji O´s last [type] ..Remembering Dr Martin Luther King- Jr
Watup Bolaji!
Man outsourcing is one of those things where you know it can save you plenty of time for you to focus on other important tasks but one that is also scary in the process. Finding the right person to take on the project is one of those reasons why,especially when there are plenty of people willing to take the job for you! Its one of those things you have to dive into it try it, and learn from your experiences.
Fortunately there are plenty of people like you who can help people like me getting started!
Yoichi
P.S. In your “Welcome to the good life” picture, your missing your lower body and facing the wrong direction (You should be facing the OCEAN!) haha
Yoichi´s last [type] ..Book full of Networking Faces
YOIIICHIIII!
My brother from another mother. How are those surfing waves, man?
I SOOO would love to learn how to surf!
(Question: are surfers allowed to wear “floaters” on their arms? What about an inflatable tire ring? These aren’t for me… I’m asking for a friend.)
Dude – you are killing me with the critique of WELCOME TO THE GOOD LIFE! ROTFLM assets off!
That was funny.
I will be sure to have my floating head actually facing the waves next time. LOL!
(Maybe I should outsource my graphic creation, for better results?) LOL!
Bolaji O´s last [type] ..A Few of My Favorite Things- Top 10 Blog Posts Around the Net Jan 15- 2011
Wow, Bolaji, you’re making my head spin. Twelve virtual assistants? Eep.
Jodi Kaplan´s last [type] ..Have You Made This Dumb Marketing Mistake
Hi JK Rowling, my billionaire big sis!
What’s that?
Wrong JK?
Are you sure?
Let me hear your British accent.
How do you pronounce “Harry Potter”?
Oh.
Yeah.
Wrong JK.
(Awkward.)
Re: The head-spinning number of virtual assistants:
What’s life without a little excess, hangover, and day-after-remorse? LOL! They make for the best blog posts…
Thanks for commenting, Jodi!
Bolaji O´s last [type] ..IT’S ALIVE! The Personal Brand Formula eBook Become Invaluable
Hi Bolaji,
Thanks for sharing your outsourcing experiences. I haven’t spill enough income to afford one yet. Will certainly put it as my next business goal to have my own virtual assistant by this first quarter. I’m enjoying doing the work myself and really happy going on this journey with Alex’s community.
Cheers,
Cheekeong Tan´s last [type] ..Find Unclaimed Money
What’s up, Cheekeong!
Thanks for your comment, brotherman!
You’re taking the right approach – doing it all yourself is the best way to go at the beginning.
You learn what aspects you like and are good at…
And you also appreciate the tasks that you are not so good at, or the tasks that are important but terribly uninteresting.
That way, you know exactly what to ask for, from your Virtual Assistant.
Virtual Assistants make you more efficient – you get more done in less time.
But they can’t make you effective – ensuring you do the RIGHT things.
Only you can do that… and that’s why it’s great to take the approach you are taking.
Create your game plan…
Start the execution yourself…
and then slowly outsource out pieces that make sense.
But even if you outsource just one tiny thing, you can do it at rates of less than $2/hour. It’s worth the experiment!
Wow Bolaji,
Way to jump on the highway in full sprint mode. Go big or go home I guess? Well great job on the post, you inspire me to think outside the box and go a little bigger.
LOL! Thanks, Phil.
This was after massive bouts of procrastination.
But when your back is to the wall, as mine was after losing my 9-to-5 and finding myself having taken a half-hearted attempt for 3 years…
I had to GO BIG!
Anyway, I’m just trying to be like you when I grow up is all…
Thanks for commenting!
Great post. I have had a similar experience. Read the 4 Hour Work Week and decided to outsource everything. Tried oDesk, eLance, a company in Israel, AskSunday, Your Man in India and a few other local individuals to be my VA and they well, sucked for lack of a better word.
What works for me is a full-time, in-house assistant (a real live W2 employee). I have hired contractors that I work with regularly for outsourcing, graphic design, video editing, social media management and occasional article writing. I use LinxBoss for backlinks and we do everything else in-house.
My advise is outsource specific tasks but be prepared to pay for an assistant who will provide true value to your company. Trust and proximity are still important.
Hey Susan!
What a treat to have you on my blog.
For those who don’t know, Susan is QUEEN OF THE DIVAS over at http://www.DivaMoneyClub.com. Four brilliant women over there, delivering value with panache and pizazz!
Susan, while my business isn’t at the in-house assistant level yet, I can see that being in my future.
After running my first Internet business for 9 years, with NO OUTSOURCING (and much more stress)…
I realize that I simply cannot meet my potential if I’m wearing every 7 hats on one head.
Have fun in Vegas with the rest of the Divas! Looking forward to the show being streamed from there! BIG THINGS for DIVAS in 2011!
Bolaji O´s last [type] ..What’s Your Michael Jordan Story Challenge 4- Personal Brand Formula
Bolaji Oooooooo!
You is da man! My word…my word, you have just created a whole ebook about this great subject!
Being a complete CONTROL FREAK, I cannot delegate anything that I fear will be done poorly.
However, (drum roll please)… man for $2 an hour, I could live with substandard work sometimes.
Hey, taking the above ebook point, you could create a product… people would find it beneficial because you have done the donkey work. To be able to go to an avenue immediately (which you can trust)would be invaluable!
Keep up the good work my friend.
Joe
Whatup, Joe Fizz!
Thanks, bruv. I hadn’t thought about doing an outsourcing eBook… but perhaps I shall. I guess I’ll actually have to TAKE SOME MORE ACTION so that I have another chapter to write, after this one!
Thanks for giving me more work to do, Joe…
B,
You are so right about considering the outsourcing all or a portion of tasks that are most critical to your success and for one reason or another you haven’t tended to. I have built several components into my outsourcing model that others browsing this discussion might find useful.
Behavioral rules:
I maintain task-based lists of conventions for my VA’s follow. Consider this lists to be rules your VA should follow when executing routine, syndicated tasks (website update example: right align all images, insert the copy as provided…do not improvise, only use veranda font, use the H1 tag for all page headings, you get the point)
The Master VA:
Assign more English fluent and savvy VA’s to manage teams of lower level, less expensive VA’s. You can send tasks to the master VA who act as managers, doling tasks out to the lower level VA’s. This structure removes you from the editing process and ensures tasks get done on time (without your oversight).
Limit Hours:
To avoid the risk of an outsourced resource getting really liberal with “your” time, negotiate a realistic turnaround time up front (with an allotment for edits) and hold them to it. Works best if you have experience managing similar tasks or you have done them yourself and are well aware of realistic turnaround times.
Drop in:
Drop in on your outsourced resources through the ODesk team room or the control panel of whatever online outsource community tool you use. Every few days, check their hours and view what they are working on (ODesk captures screen shots of your resource’s computer desktop for a visual diary of their progress). Let them know if things don’t look right.
These are all issues that managers face in the analogue world. Don’t let these potential issues stop you from outsourcing work that needs to get done. Test and build a system of controls and eventually you can put work on autopilot.
John Easton´s last [type] ..The Attraction Strategy to Use Now!
Wow – thanks for the comment, John!
This comment is a MASTER-CLASS for managing a Virtual Assistant team!
I think Limiting Hours is the only of these recommendations I’ve applied. (And that’s from getting burned.)
I’ll be reviewing this list over the coming weeks/months. I’d be interested in learning more about the categories of rules you’ve created over time, by the way.
The Master VA concept is exciting! I’d like to learn more about that as well.
I think I’m going to have to interview you to get all your secrets…

Bolaji O´s last [type] ..The Go-Giver’s Law of Value Cartoon- How Much Value Are You Willing to Give
Bolaji,
You know I use VA’s for a great many activities these days. One less than obvious delegation opportunity is the use of a VA for social media, PR research and sales support. I have and do use my team of VA’s to:
•Build and update my media list (list of print, radio, tv and web media and specific journalists within target organizations.)
•Guest blogging opportunities: To find blogs and bloggers in complimentary niche’s actively seeking guest blog posts
•Sales support: To prepare preliminary research on prospective client’s firms and to prepare sales presentations…they make me look smart
•Find other contractors: Pull together reports from contractor marketplaces and the web on prospective contractors who meet our criteria
I could go on…but I’m hungry. Keep making us smart!
John
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Great comment, John. Thanks for sharing!
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Bolaji,
I visited because I read a comment of yours on another site. I’m staying because you rock. I subscribed.
Never having used a VA my concern is mainly security issues.
For instance, what about setting up stores and what not?
Thanks
Rob´s last [type] ..FarmVille Cheats and the BigMac
What’s uuup, Rob!
Hey – thanks a lot for visiting, and even bigger thanks for granting me a subscription.
It’s an honor.
Your question about security concerns is a brilliant one.
I haven’t yet outsourced any tasks that involve sharing financial information (like credit card numbers, paypal login, and the like).
Jason James, an expert outsourcer, for example, has full trust in his Virtual Assistants.
I recall that on a webinar, he talked about how, culturally, in the Philippines, there is a much higher level of trust than elsewhere.
So he has reached the stage where he’s quite comfortable sharing financial data.
I imagine that it will be a progressive relationship, starting with small tasks, and culminating in the VA ordering anniversary flowers for one’s spouse, etc.
LOL!
Anyway, since I don’t have a complete answer for you, I’ve asked 6 of the top outsourcers in the world your very question… via Twitter.
Looking forward to some good responses from them!
Checking out http://www.TodayHasPower.com now (LOVE THE BLOG NAME!)
Thanks for stopping by, Rob.
Bolaji.
Boom! This is EXACTLY what I need. I’ve been teetering over outsourcing for a while. I’ve outsourced some things but my 7 week plan is to systematize all tasks necessary an affiliate marketing campaign so those very tedious and time-consuming tasks can be outsourced. On the money Bolaji!
Way to go, Dolla Bill!
I’m excited you’ve joined the Nocrastinator’s 7-Day Challenge…
Can’t wait to see your results tomorrow!
Hi Bolaji,
What are you oDesk stats looking like now? Are you outsourcing a simliar amount each month now?
I’m mostly getting transcrips and graphics done but want to expand that as soon as I can,
Thanks
Keith
I love the way you write . It is personal , honest and funny I also got started with outsourcing …I got really excellent graphics done for my ebooks and other tasks quicker than i would ever have done it myself .
FEMO!
My guy – thanks a lot for your comment, man.
Very much appreciated.
Wishing you all the best, man!
Bolaji.
Hey B.O
Happy New Years. My name is Sensei.M,
Enjoying your wso’s and blog…
Im in the shawdows stalking like a ninja…. but haven’t been able to get inside the fortress and complete my misson as yet. (make alot of money in I.M.) Im a Motivational Coach and Entrepreneur Consultant… I’m very cautious in my entry into the I.M world… But it’s time to come out. Anyway my friend just venting… thanks for your inspiration, insight and transparentcy… These Gurus are killing me. the funny thing is their time is up… That’s a WSO. I would like to work on with you. Stay blessed all the best for you and your beautiful family in 2012.
Sensei.M